From the Net: DILG PLUS PNP EQUALS JUETENG (Sen Miriam Santiago)

I was not surprised to read the headlines state that Sen. Miriam Santiago had received death threats for her position on jueteng. It made me wonder though, what exactly did she say that touched raw nerves?

For all the muck that has been raised against Sen Miriam Santiago, I do admire her guts and her ability to call a spade.. well.. a spade.  I say that without closing my eyes to her pragmatism as a political animal.

Even before Miriam Santiago made public her position on legalizing jueteng, in light of the lessons from the US Prohibition Era, BongV of has actively campaigned for legalization of jueteng.

In recognition of Sen Santiago’s stand on jueteng, this space is yielded to the Hon Sen. Miriam Defensor-Santiago.

Privilege speech on 22 September 2010

I am on sick leave for hypothyroidism, which means that my thyroid gland located at the throat does not produce enough thyroid hormones. This deficiency causes many of the body’s functions to slow down. Some of the symptoms are: extreme tiredness, dizziness, and shortness of breath. For this reason, I will not be able to answer questions after my speech. Instead, with your kind permission, I will have to rush home to recuperate.

On other similar occasions, I hope our colleagues will extend me the similar privilege to participate briefly in certain Senate activities that I might consider as extraordinarily important. I can summon enough energy only for about an hour’s work, each day, and after that I am exhausted and dysfunctional. My endocrinologist expects recovery in three to six months’ time.

Mr. President, ladies and gentlemen of the Senate:

Albert Einstein, one of the most creative intellects in human history, gave the world the immortal formula “E = mc2”. Filipino Einsteins – who number in the millions – have given our politics the undying formula “DILG + PNP = Jueteng.”

DILG exercises the power of control over the PNP, and the power ofsupervision over local governments. Thus, if the interior secretary commands his forces to stop illegal jueteng, the stars in the heavens will stop, and the Philippines would be jueteng-free.

But unless we in government take drastic measures, jueteng will not end today or next year; jueteng will end only four and a half billion years from now, when planet Earth is expected to die. Before then, big stars will explode in supernovas, dwarf stars will turn into black holes, gravity will create new stars, planets, and galaxies, the planet Earth will commune with alternate universes, and in the Philippines, jueteng will still continue. Why? Because the equation involves too much money and corruption, and too little courage or conviction. Allow me to recite the political playbook.

Jueteng is the crown jewel of any new administration. During any presidential campaign, corrupt racketeers, self-advertised as campaign experts (read: professional campaign cheats) busy themselves by alternately courting each of the leading presidential candidates. By simply tracking the campaign surveys, the racketeers are able to predict the likely winner. In the crucial last few weeks, the racketeering group formally affiliate themselves

with the likely winner, throwing everything his way, notably exorbitant cash contributions, and the alleged support of an alleged nationwide campaign machinery.

When their candidate wins, the racketeers put on their most innocent faces, and steer the new and grateful president to appointing their blushing man as DILG secretary. Once the new interior secretary takes his oath, he immediately summons the PNP chief, and issues the order that, contrary to law, jueteng shall be allowed throughout the archipelago. This is managed corruption. And these two Merchants of Poverty operate with impunity until the next administration.

By allowing jueteng, the two men together will receive at least one percent of jueteng gross receipts every month, or one percent of annual receipts of someP30 billion. Thus, every year, the interior secretary and the PNP chief receiveP300 million, to be divided according to agreement.

The equation DILG + PNP = Jueteng means that illegal jueteng consists of a conspiracy between the interior secretary and the police chief. They are the prime beneficiaries and ultimate protectors of jueteng. If we as a people do not rouse ourselves from our stupor, someday the Philippine president will be elected on the basis of who gets the biggest jueteng contribution.

What about the president? He or she can be manipulated to profess ignorance, because the two lords of the gambling industry will insidiously make the president dependent on their support. For example, they can act as the praetorian guard of the president when he is under siege, such as when a coup d’etat lurks on the horizon, and the PNP has to head off the nascent uprising. Or in times of political crisis, the two racketeers will contribute cash in the hundreds of millions, solicited from jueteng operators, and destined for distribution to certain members of Congress, so that they will not doublecross the president when a certain legislative deal goes sour. In effect, the president will be hostage to jueteng money.

This is the reason why the PNP rank and file always profess to love the interior secretary. He makes it possible for the lowly policemen to – ehem – augment their salaries. This is also the reason why, when the opportunity arises, the interior secretary makes sure that his own candidate gets appointed as PNP chief. In a corrupt situation, all that is necessary is for the interior secretary and the PNP chief to gaze into each other’s eyes, and they fall in love instantly. If you look more closely, you will see that there are peso signs in their eyes, as they gaze lovingly at each other in an orgy of mutual admiration and mutual corruption.


As an academic exercise, I will go briefly through the pros and cons of gambling.

1. Effects of Gambling

Pro: Life is dreary, and willing persons deserve simple fun and escapism.

Con: Gambling is immoral, because it gives false hopes to those least able to afford the financial outlay involved. This is particularly true of jueteng.

2. Addiction to Gambling

Pro: The object of addiction is not itself immoral. A person can be addicted to gambling, but he can also be addicted to sex, coffee, jogging, TV, the internet. The source of the addiction is not the cause, which is based on the addict’s own psychological order.

Con: Gambling is as addictive as any drug and similarly results in anti-social behavior, financial ruin, and crime.

3. Materialism

Pro: For the poor, material wealth could bring security, education, health care, and other benefits central to human fulfillment.

Con: State-sanctioning of gambling inculcates materialistic values in society. Gambling wealth has destroyed marriages, families, and friendships.

4. Random Nature

Pro: If gambling results are random, so is life itself.

Con: Gambling defeats the ideals of social justice by offering wealth by chance, instead of by skill, industry, or merit. Parenthetically, if certain forms of gambling remain illegal, then gambling in futures, options, and derivatives should be declared illegal as well.

5. Moral Choice

Pro: Gambling is not immoral, but merely harmless fun. It follows the law of supply and demand.

Con: Gambling confronts us with a moral choice on ways of making money. It is like the industries where money is made by selling firearms or dangerous drugs.

6. Waste of Money

Con: Gambling results in the waste of billions of pesos every year, which could be given to charitable uses.

Pro: We should not compel people to donate their money to charity. After all, we do not compel people who spend money on pastimes – such as sports equipment, expensive food and wine, or cosmetics – to give their money to charity.


Under the Constitution, there is no fundamental or constitutional right to gamble. The regulation of gambling lies at the heart of the police powers of the state. Thus, the state has the power to regulate gambling in the interest of public health, safety, and general welfare. Accordingly, the Penal Code prohibits certain forms of gambling, including jueteng.

In view of the stubborn longevity of jueteng in our country, I humbly submit the following proposals for consideration:

  • The penalties imposed by the Penal Code, Article 195 as amended by P.D. No. 1602, are inadequate. This being so, pending a legislative bill to increase penalties, the justice department should study whether illegal gambling constitutes “racketeering activity” under the Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, also known as RICO.
  • Amend the Penal Code to provide for a new crime penalizing “conspiracy to obstruct justice to facilitate a gambling business.” One of the requirements of the crime should be that one or more of the conspirators is an official or employee of a local government unit, or of the PNP.
  • Congress should penalize more harshly the party responsible for promoting or facilitating gambling, rather than the person engaging in gambling. Thus, the penalties should be raised for keeping a gambling place, and for possession of a gambling device. The individual bettor is often victimized by the large-scale operator.
  • PAGCOR and PCSO should be compelled to include in their advertisements, the following statement or its equivalent: “In gambling devices based on the playing of numbers, the odds against the individual player are extremely great.”
  • The Supreme Court, in any project to amend the Rules of Court, could codify the general rule that the prosecution is privileged to withhold from an accused the identity of an informer. This is known as the privilege of nondisclosure, and I avail of it today.
  • Amend the Penal Code to control cheating in jueteng, and the dishonesty of its promoters.
  • If jueteng is legalized, amend the Internal Revenue Code so as to derive rich tax revenues from jueteng, to be levied against the promoters and players.


If all else fails, then as lawmakers we have to consider the proposal to legalize jueteng and declare an amnesty period for jueteng operators to legalize themselves by paying a legalization fee to the government, and by paying subsequent taxes that shall be treated as analogues of internal revenue allotments.

There are occasions when government, seeking to prohibit absolutely, finds the law impossible to enforce, and consequently reduces its ambitions from prohibition to regulation. This is salient in the present debate on legalizing jueteng, because no administration has yet succeeded in sending a major gambling lord to jail. If we cannot prohibit, should we not regulate?

The present prohibition of jueteng is similar to the 1919 National Prohibition Act, which led to the Prohibition Amendment to the US Constitution. Prohibition applied to the manufacture, sale, or transportation of alcoholic beverages, with the aim of obtaining abstinence through legal means.

However, in the United States during Prohibition, illegal manufacture and sales of liquor continued on a large scale. In general, Prohibition was enforced only where the population was sympathetic to it. Prohibition created a new kind of criminal, known as the bootlegger. The career of Al Capone was a dramatic instance of the development of bootlegging on a large scale. There was a succession of gang wars and murders. By the late 1920s, bootlegging was on the verge of semimonopoly control. By 1933, the US had to repeal Prohibition.

In discussing any proposal to legalize jueteng, Congress should consider the following lessons drawn from the US Prohibition Act, as applied to Philippine jueteng:

  • Prohibition of jueteng has merely increased the reach and volume of jueteng.
  • Prohibition has led to the perennial criminal conspiracy between the DILG secretary and the PNP chief.
  • It has increased restriction on individual freedom.
  • Their illicit, untaxed wealth has enabled jueteng operators to determine by their undeclared campaign contributions the winners in local elections, and soon they might control the results of national elections. Legalization will clip the wings of jueteng operators.
  • Most countries that have experimented with the alcohol ban soon lifted it, as illustrated by the cases of the U.S. and Finland. In our country, jueteng prohibition is unenforced, because the corruption it breeds vanquishes any champion of law enforcement. Such a champion must be ready to engage the Al Capones of jueteng in a gang war. I don’t see any takers.


Money from jueteng bets are called gross receipts. The biggest gross receipts in Luzon are, in order of amount, on a daily, repeat daily, basis are:

  1. Laguna – P 14 M
  2. Pampanga – P 9 M
  3. Pangasinan – P 9 M
  4. Batangas – P 8.5 M
  5. Bulacan – P 8 M
  6. Nueva Ecija – P 7.5 M
  7. Quezon – P 7.5 M

From this daily income, the jueteng operator has to subtract his operation expenses of 34 percent, itemized as follows:

Cabo –                  2%

Cobrador –        10%

Management – 22%

34% Operation Expenses

After subtracting operation expenses, and the jueteng prize money, the operator proceeds to pay, on a monthly basis, protection money to syndicates at various levels, arranged form the highest level, as follows:

A. National Level

  • 1% to the syndicate consisting of: DILG secretary or undersecretary, PNP chief, and CIDG head.
  • 2% to the PCSO syndicate consisting of: PCSO chair, general manager, board directors, legal department, Romualdo Quiñones, a certain Sabella, and taxes. The operator pays so-called taxes consisting of 5% of the gross, plus 2% for the receipts known as papeletos.
  • 1% to the syndicate consisting of the Games and Amusement Board, Intelligence Officer, and to media.

B. Provincial and Regional Level

  • 3% to the syndicate consisting of the governor, vice-governor, and Sanggunian Panlunsod members.
  • 1% to the PNP Provincial Director.
  • 0.2% to the NBI Provincial Director (Point 2 percent)
  • 1% to the syndicate consisting of PNP Regional Director, or in Metro Manila to the NCR Police Organization, the Regional 2, and the Regional MG.

C. Municipal Level

  • 5% to the syndicate consisting of the mayor, vice-mayor, and Sanggunian Bayan members.
  • 2% to the congressman
  • 1% to the local chief of police


I shall now proceed to name the jueteng operators for each region, arranged by province. I cover only Regions 1 to 5, because my informants are still compiling information from other regions. I commend the province of Aurora and Governor Bellaflor Angara Castillo, because apparently there is no jueteng to speak of in Aurora.

It appears that the Top Operators, in terms of provinces covered, are:

  • Atong Ang
  • Danny Soriano
  • Bong Pineda
  • Aging Lisan
  • Tony Santos
Jueteng Operator Numbers Game
Ilocos Norte 2 M Gov. Singson 1-37
Ilocos Sur 2 M Gov. Singson 1-37
Abra 900,000 Bonito Singson 1-37
La Union 800,000 Cong. Singson 1-37
Pangasinan 9 M M. Urduña /

Boy Bata

Nueva Vizcaya 1.5 M Atong Ang

(Double A)

Virtual 2
Isabela 3.5 M Atong Ang

(Double A)

Virtual 2
Cagayan 1.4 M Danny Soriano (Brother of Gen. Soriano) 1-37
Quirino 300,000 D. Soriano 1-37
Benguet 1.2 M No Name 1-37
Baguio 1.5 M No Name 1-37
Aurora None
Nueva Ecija 7.5 M Bong Pineda

(Gov. P12 M)

STL (1-40)
Bulacan 8.0 M Bong Pineda

(Gov. P6 M)

STL (1-40)
Tarlac 3.5 M No Name

(Gov. No sum)

STL (1-38)
Pampanga 9.0 M Bong Pineda

(Gov. P9 M)

1-37 /
STL (1-40)
Zambales 1.5 M Col. Delos Santos

(Gov. P2 M)

Olongapo 1.1 M Aging Lisan

(Gov. P1 M)

Angeles City 1.5 M Bong Pineda

(Mayor P1.5 M)

Bataan 3.0 M Bong Pineda

(Gov. P3 M)

Manila 3 M Bookies / Ronald Lim 1-37
Quezon City 2 M Tony Santos 1-37
1 M Togo
Caloocan City 1 M Tony Santos 1-37
Navotas & Malabon 2 M Aging Lisan 1-37
Valenzuela 1 M Tony Santos 1-37
Pasay & Makati 1 M Elmer Nepomuceno 1-37
Cavite 1.6 M Atong Ang

(Double A)

Virtual 2 /


Laguna 14.0 M Don Ramon/Boyet Aransa/Haruta STL
Batangas 8.5 M Sanchez /

Cezar Reyes

Quezon 7.5 M Eddie Gonzales STL
Rizal 1.5 M Elmer Nepomuceno / Tony Santos 1-37
Mindoro Oriental 1.5 M Atong Ang

(Double A)

Virtual 2
Mindoro Occidental 1.4 M Don Ramon / Santiago STL
Marinduque No Name Swertres
Romblon No Name Swertres
Palawan No Name Swertres
Camarines Norte 1.7 M Atong Ang

(Double A)

Virtual 2
Camarines Sur 4.0 M Bong Pineda 1-37
Albay 4.2 M Atong Ang

(Double A)

Virtual 2 /


Sorsogon 2.0 M Bong Pineda 1-37
Masbate No Name Swertres
Catanduanes No Name Swertres

Apparently, our government cannot enforce the law that bans jueteng. Various Philippine presidents have come and gone, but illegal jueteng remains. If so, should we not settle for regulating jueteng, instead of abolishing it on paper, without any realistic hope of success on the ground? Then we could impose high fees and earn huge taxes for our cash-strapped government instead of incurring more foreign debts.

Some presidents have established STL as an alternative to jueteng. If the new PCSO management is street-smart, it can easily confirm that only 10 to 15 percent of STL earnings are declared. The rest of the earnings are actually siphoned off to jueteng. Thus, STL is a failure.

Allow me now to quote lawyer’s Latin from Petronius: Quid faciat leges, ubi sola pecunia regnat? What may laws do where only money reigns? What power has the law, where only money speaks? And in the same vein, allow me also to quote Horace: Quid leges sine moribus vanae proficiunt? Without morals, what can futile law do?

Let me end this privilege speech the way I began it: with reference to Einstein. Just before he died in 1955, he wrote: “What I seek to accomplish is simply to serve with my feeble capacity, truth and justice, at the risk of pleasing no one.”

Our mandate on jueteng is clear: enforce the law, or legalize jueteng. Now please excuse me. I am compelled by ill health to go home to Quezon City. But I am also prepared to change direction, if the jueteng operators I have named proceed to send me to my Maker.

E(energy) = m(mass) c(velocity of light) squared.


We need more brilliant no-nonsense Senators like Senator Miriam Santiago.



  1. … daaaang…. teka…. teka …. teka…. from cobrador’s point of view…. during my heyday >>> i collect taya (bets), anywhere from singko sentimos to dalampung piso per bet (taya)… sampera wins 9 pesos (one sentimo wins siyam na piso)… ha! not a bad investment return of investment (roi)… as a cobrador, my take is 10% of the collection…. it’s hard work…. for singko sentimos, i hafta pound the pavement from miles to coax hampas lupas to bet… i knocked on burgis doors for theirs… anywhere from sampung piso to tapwe… for the noon bolahan, i collected anywhere from kinse pesos to one hanred pipty pesos… it’s larger on the evening… now, let’s do the math: how much is my 10% of the collection?… looka heah… i have ‘sang tambaks na pulubis and kabits to feed… kaya maawa naman kayo…. o sige, taya na mga kabayan… 😳

  2. I lost a sponsor child, a Fourth Year High School student, to Jueteng in Albay. He became a collector three months before his graduation.

    Legalization is the only answer. Jueteng is an established business. From Marcos time to this date. Huge amount of money is involved and they will not stop the operation. They will continue to kill and exploit people just to protect their millions.

  3. daaaaaang….i don’t know about y’all, in my hood, jueteng employs ‘sang tambaks na tambays… set up adidas/turo-turo stands, halo-halo/sago… pays high school tuitions, pay books, and hires traysikads/jeepneys for transportation…. set up college scholarships for deserving kids… sometimes, pay for medical expenses for cobradores… extend loans for their food and clothing… builds health centers, artisan wells, and paves roads, etc. etc…. no flipgov can provide such minimum social needs… exhibit # 1 >>> ulong pare.,. i am a product of jueteng…. AND PROUD OF IT….. downside: bribed ‘sang tambaks ang traposakals, padre damasos y uniformed thugs aka pnp/afp who wanted to take over the jueteng operation for their greed…

  4. My heart bleeds and I promise to find the next jueteng collector so that he may be able to feed his kabit too.. lol! You have a sense of humor. you made my day!

  5. The word has gone out from the very top. Lie low muna.

    Interior and Local 😦 Government Secretary Jesse Robredo said “jueteng” operations have virtually stopped, saying some (at least six) 😉 of the provinces in the country are now 95 percent free of the controversial illegal numbers game.

    “A lot of (jueteng) operations have stopped, the message itself resulted in the discontinuance of some of the operations,” said Robredo in an interview. By message, Robredo is referring to the one-strike policy ordered by Director General Raul Bacalzo, chief 😯 of the Philippine National Police (PNP) which means that a chief of police will immediately be relieved of his post if a successful anti-jueteng operation conducted by other units occurred in his area of jurisdiction.

  6. himynameistimoy · ·

    “This is also the reason why, when the opportunity arises, the interior secretary makes sure that his own candidate gets appointed as PNP chief. In a corrupt situation, all that is necessary is for the interior secretary and the PNP chief to gaze into each other’s eyes, and they fall in love instantly. If you look more closely, you will see that there are peso signs in their eyes, as they gaze lovingly at each other in an orgy of mutual admiration and mutual corruption.”

    This one got me lmao  😆 

    I agree that we need more no-nonsense senators like Sen. Miriam Santiago, but it’s sad knowing they are useless because too many incompetent ones keep winning in the elections.  😡

  7. A week before Persidente Benigno Simeon “Noynoy” Aquino left for New York City, he asked that names be named.

    So people can all relax :mrgreen: about jueteng because names 😯 have been named and Persidente “Noynoy” Aquino with his good-reliable-trustworthy-buddy Rico Puno will work for the “walang korap, walang mahirap” smile.

  8. Hyden Toro · ·

    We have a situation, the same as the Italian Government. The Sicilian Mafia, known as the Cosa Nostra are in bed, with the Politicians and the Police. Members of the Cosa Nostra are the Italian leaders themselves. The Police are protecting and in cahoots with the criminal organization. People on the highest level of leadership and law enforcements are the problems. It will take a superhuman effort to solve such problem. Former President Erap Estrada was a Jueteng Lord, himself. Secretary Puno is on take with the criminal organization. Governors, Public Officials, prominent Politicians, etc…are the Jueteng Operators. I liken our situation; the same as when the Cuban Dictator Batista was the leader. Before Cuba’s Fidel Castro and Che Guevarra, won the Revolution. I have not solution. Tell it to Noynoy Aquino to solve it. His bossom friend Secretary is a leading player in the crime orgsnization, and he has grown rich from it. 😡

  9. Miriam Quiamco · ·

    I agree Mel, legalization is the answer.  Jueteng is no different from other forms of gambling, except for the fact that it is a poor man’s preferred way to take part in the games of chance, in the hope of winning some money on a paltry bet.  The system back home is hypocritical and elitist, it only allows the games of chance preferred by the idle rich.  Let the poor man have his thrill too, I don’t think the govt. will be able to eradicate jueteng at all.  

  10. ulong pare · ·

    … daaaang… why y’all demonize jueteng?… JIL (jueteng is lord) 😳 :mrgreen: … focus on the big pictures… poverty alleviation… jobs creation… squat elimination… libog castration and polulation control… crime prevention… etchastera, etc… allah eh… focus…. mga ,kabayan naman namannn… prez gung gong is laughing hard… harder…. harderestest… 😯

  11. VERY OBJECTIVE!! This is why one of my Senatorial list has Sen. Santiago in it. Kahit antagal na nya sa position at matuturi na siyang “super senior” , at least ganyan siya ka objective and subjective sa issues. Ayoko lang ung time na sangkot siya sa instigation ng “EDSA 3”

    Legalization of jueteng. Naku, pag na ligalize yan, hahanap naman ang ibang sindikato ng bagong source ng illegal gambling. Nandun ang datung e/

  12. I’m from India and we have a similar game called “matka” which is also a numbers game from 1-37 and played by poor people in sub urban areas and its daily turnover is very similar to the turnover reported here.

    The operators run the business worry free as they send commission to top executive and police chief in the City.. After reading this article, i thought same people are running both the operation…its so similar. 🙂

    If they make Jueteng legal…then all the commission money will not go to top executives but to the government and it would be regulated. So, people in power will fight tooth and nail to not stop illegal operation of Jeuteng. 

    Its not so much for who are running the show on ground BUT the people in power that will not allow its legalization.

  13. Theories abound, depending on whom one asks, on how the issue of jueteng, from Cruz’s initial allegations to the continuing investigations on both Houses of Congress, has ballooned to such proportions. The more popular version is that is it is about who gets to control the jueteng-STL “industry” for the next six years. While this theory also holds water, the less talked-about angle is how this “struggle” came to be and how it is bound to be fought until the next national elections. 

    Aquino’s “straight and righteous path” is an aberration of political engineering – it has two overlapping lanes, both too ambitious for either to be righteous.

  14. Based on these figures:

    1. Laguna – P 14 M
    2. Pampanga – P 9 M
    3. Pangasinan – P 9 M
    4. Batangas – P 8.5 M
    5. Bulacan – P 8 M
    6. Nueva Ecija – P 7.5 M
    7. Quezon – P 7.5 M

    How come we still say that we are a poor country?

    Man, think of the possibilities that this amount of money can do. If somebody could actually harness this pool of money and invest it, legally of course, think of how much good it can do to our society. And this amount is only for Luzon. How about Visayas? Mindanao?

    The issue of jueteng underlines the twisted culture and mentality of Filipinos. That is the “kanya kanya” mentality. Each to his own, you don’t care if your neighbor looses his shirt, his family, his sanity, so long as you win the game. Jueteng is apathy in it’s core.

    For people to support the legalization of one of the greatest victimizer of the poor in our society lies contrary to this website’s aims to change the culture and mentality of pinoys. This is rather defeatist, the notion of “since we can’t beat jueteng, why not legalize it?”

    Why don’t we legalize shabu? We can’t seem to beat it as well. A lot of families are also supported by shabu. Think of all those pushers, the henchmen, the chemists and the families that they support. Poor them if their family members who peddle drugs lose their livelihood.

    If the the poor are empowered through jobs and education, I don’t think they will have to rely on jueteng for their livelihood, and people will be smart enough to even bother betting on a rigged game. Or maybe they’ll start betting on futures, options and derivatives instead 🙂

  15. Jueteng is now forbidden here in the North . It is now called Palaro sa Bigas. The same Jueteng collecter, the same amount of bet for a sack of rice win.

    See how fast they can get rid of Jueteng? 😦

  16. Legalize the jueteng and DON’T CRITICIZE IT as Peter Tosh said….

  17. Despite her “brenda” reputation, she still says some things that are valid, like this piece about jueteng… and I gather she still has sharp legal acumen. She may be infamous because of that envelope-stopping decision back in 2001, but I think it’s because she knows of the troublesome technicalities of the law. At least give credence to the message for its own merit, not because of the messenger,

  18. Frankly, I like her. I always have liked her.

  19. Hyden Toro · ·

    Even in India. You “HAFTA” ( lagay), the Police and Public officials. Lagay in India is called “hafta” 🙄

  20. Hyden Toro · ·

    If you legalize it. There will not be PAYOLAs for the Police and for the government officials. They will surely fight legalization. Good income producing enterprise stopped? :mrgreen:

  21. Noynoy Aquino and all of us; are caught between a Rock and a Hard Place in this “Jueteng” issue.” Jueteng ” has been there, since I was a child. I saw the “Jueteng” Collector doing his/her rounds everyday in the neighborhood. It is an “itch” that will not go away. 😆

  22. @Jack

    I’m not surprised considering Jueteng’s origins are not Filipino by all means, but Chinese 😉

    Everyone wants a cut of the pie, regardless of how badly they want to sink below the grasps of justice. You do make a point that the politicians and public servants in cahoots don’t want to legalize it because they make their extra cut from it.

  23. The only way to have it legalized it to redo the system we are currently in and improve upon it, so conditions won’t make it acceptable for jueteng to be tolerated. Once you fix the notions of people of what it is to be rich as opposed to being wealthy and being given those options, they will certainly rethink the positions on gambling like that.

  24. concerned_citizen · ·

    Now I realize how wrong I was on my stand not to legalize jueteng. Thank you for an informative piece. Now I see a bigger picture and I’m always glad I drop by AP every once in a while. More power antipinoy.

  25. I would like to see jueteng indeed, be considered under racketeering only to reverse it later, when it starts bringing in tax income. hahaha.

    Any moral claim against jueteng should be considered hypocritical when it is followed by a proposal to legalize it. One thing in common about all Philippine government administrations (after the marcos) is when they can’t enforce a good law, they abolish it. hahaha.

    If only the government will put as much effort in resolving traffic accidents, which actually kills tens of thousands innocent Filipinos annually, rather than this jueteng that kills less than it should of corrupt officials…

  26. If these monkeys would focus more on enforcement rather than amending more laws, they would at least get half the job done.

  27. …. daaaaaang…. flipmonkeys cannot and will not enforce laws, or any laws for that matter… they do not have the mental faculty and the guts to do it… flipmonkeys cannot come up with their original laws…. from constitution down to “bawal ang umihi” thingy, all plagiarized… bwi hi hi hi hi pwi! :mrgreen:

  28. No you’re not wrong on your stand to not legalize jueteng. Should we always give up and let the world be if we cannot seem to change something for the better? Then what are principles for? What are laws for?

    Compromise is not the only way out of the jueteng issue. There are a lot of available avenues which are more effective, albeit more difficult to implement. I think that is the key word here, DIFFICULT. The government, and us pinoys, would always go back to our default Juan Tamad mode when faced with the word difficult, as seen in this case. Well, there’s the easy way of legalization, so why bother?

    Juan Tamad. That is all we are if we allow jueteng to proliferate and be legalized. Greedy, apathetic, tamad. Proven time and time again.

  29. I don’t want to waste my taxes on legislating Big Brother into life – gambling is a personal decision – let the Darwinist law of natural selection prevail – revenues from jueteng can fund gambling addiction and gambling prevention programs as well.

    Banning jueteng is a tired old solution that has been proven not to work – Legalize and tax jueteng. Performance bonus will be given to the most rights-compliant tactically effective police units on tax evading jueteng operators, LGUs, and BIR units. Funds will be used to build schools, upgrade the curriculum, increase teacher pay, upgrade teacher capabilities, and improve classrooms. Jueteng operators are people too – they are part of the solution.

  30. if these monkeys had lesser stupid laws to implement – …  😉  :mrgreen:

  31. @BongV

    got any reading on how Jueteng banning has not worked? on wiki it was said that they tried to make it legal with the concept of small town lotto but I don’t have anymore leads as to what happen to it. Sadly the PCSO website doesn’t have much on it either, what with such wonderful claims like With the use of computers and new technology, the STL also aimed to eradicate jueteng, masiao, and other similar illegal number games that were rampant in the countryside.

  32. jay – look around you – jueteng is banned – has banning jueteng it stopped at all?

  33. jueteng operators who don’t pay taxes on jueteng operations can be held liable for tax evasion charges. how can you tax an illegal activity?

  34. I have made the same argument above: shabu is also banned. Have we stopped shabu at all? Then, why don’t we legalize shabu? Drug dealers are people too, so let’s get them involved and make them part of a solution. Let’s tax shabu and build shabu-financed schools and hospitals, while we’re at it, let’s build shabu factories so we could provide more livelihood to Juan Tamad.

    Let’s legalize illegal logging, prostitution, what else? Oh yeah, rape. Yeah rape is good. Let’s legalize rape, anyway our police are too incompetent to stop rape. Let’s just tax rapists and use the money to finance rehab centers for rapists who want to change. As long as it does not affect me personally, why the hell not?

  35. Miriam Quiamco · ·

    You cannot possibly compare shabu with jueteng, the latter is a form of entertainment for the poor which does not cause brain damage and raise crime rate.  Jueteng is  like any other numbers games, like lotto which is legal in many countries, and casino . . .

  36. palebluedot_ · ·

    we may debate on legalizing prostitution or jueteng (or any non-PCSO administered gambling) or marijuana for its therapeutic properties. they all have valid pros & cons being studied for years by experts. but there’s just no debate in legalizing shabu and rape. what literature has shown that methamphetamines have sustainable therapeutic properties? except maybe for causing decrease in weight and increasing wakefulness, like what they are doing in bangkok so that workers will become more productive & attractive (pero at the end, yun productive & sexy worker dies fast naman din), legalizing shabu is just a losing topic. legal rape? parang sa few tribes of africa lang yata legal ang rape. even amsterdam or las vegas, where prostitution is legal, forcing someone to do sexual acts is considered illegal. rape is defined as crime talaga, so wala nang argument yun.

    illegal logging?!? kaya nga may “illegal” before the word “logging” cause its just not legal. legal naman logging sa Pilipinas, except those sourced from designated areas, or yun kumuha nang walang lisensya para pumutol nang kahoy. problema talaga nang illegal logging is law enforcement….like everything else in this country, law enforcement ang major problem.

    i know you meant to be sarcastic. but we just can’t put shabu & rape together with prostitution & jueteng 😆

  37. palebluedot_ · ·

    ooops hindi pala legal prostitution sa las vegas

  38. methamphetamine by itself is a therapy for ADHD, is also used for weight-loss, and is a controlled substance – it is not legal to possess one without authorization – but w/ authrization from the state – it is legal to  possess one. same goes for morphine, and all the pain killing drugs like Oxycontin. Moderation, regulation, appropriate use.

    heck weed is already legal as a therapeutic agent and depending on how it turns out in California might become legal to use for recreation like alcohol. 

    the fact that enforcement is unsuccessful shows people give lip service to the idea – just like nominal churchgoers – who turn up to either get in bed with the priest or the nun or with both  :mrgreen:

  39. Bong… probably you mean methylphenidate (Ritalin) for ADHD. Although this is also used to make methamphetamine. But I do now question drug bans. I watched a video showing that in the US, because the DEA is a complete failure, they instead turned to hunting prescription drug abuse… in the mad rage to get someone arrested. It’s like these people have A Rage to Punish (a Lois Forer book, which I have). And it’s not doing more harm than good.

  40. Chino F – check out this interview with Milton Friedman before he died – discussing the FDA – httpv://

    and Friedman why drugs should be legalized – httpv://

  41. Now THAT is a REAL senator. Let me be honest, even the ballsiest male senators are pussycats compared to Miriam. If only we had more leaders like her…

  42. @Miriam, let me give you the analogy:

    Cocaine == rich man’s drug
    Casino == rich man’s way to gamble

    Shabu == poor man’s coke
    Jueteng == poor man’s casino

    The only difference is the amount of money involved, but if you take a closer look, the social impact of these things are the same.

    Maybe people are just desensitized by the daily reality of jueteng, that’s why they don’t really think deeper about it’s social impact.

    @paleblue: ever wonder why jueteng is called the “illegal numbers game”? We already have a legal form of logging, so yeah, there is no need to further legalize illegal logging. Same with jueteng, we already have legalized gambling in the form of lotto, why do we still need jueteng? Ganyan na ba ka bored ang mga pilipino? Ay naku, kakaawa naman.

    And you’re right, everything in pinas lacks proper enforcement. So, isn’t it time for us to step up and advocate proper enforcement of our laws instead?

    To quote BongV : “Performance bonus will be given to the most rights-compliant tactically effective police units on tax evading jueteng operators, LGUs, and BIR units.”

    Why can’t we do this on proper police work with regards to the crackdown of jueteng? Why is it that we can think of ways like this when taking the “easy way out” of legalizing jueteng, but could not when it comes to proper law enforcement? Ganyan na ba ka hopeless ang pinas? Ay naku, kakaawa naman.

    As i have said on my previous post, jueteng is apathy in it’s core. Let us not be apathetic to the plight of our neighbors, guys.

    “Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death” – Santiago

  43. the government can provide tax deductions to STL operators – to offset the tax evasion pressure.

    legitimization provides wider market coverage and minimal cost of doing business due to elimination of need to give pay offs

    plus.. no need to undergo convoluted process of money laundering – why chance it when you are already legal. they don’t have to use dummies to build Atlantic city 🙂

    Performance bonus will be given to the most rights-compliant tactically effective police units on tax evading jueteng operators, LGUs, and BIR units. Funds will be used to build schools, upgrade the curriculum, increase teacher pay, upgrade teacher capabilities, and improve classrooms. Jueteng operators are people too – they are part of the solution.

    jueteng lords exist because only gambling monopolies have the economy of scale to pay off – petty, systemic, and grand corruption. the demand for gambling as a form of entertainment is permanent. where demand is present, the supply will be met – taking one jueteng lord down will mean more jueteng lords replacing one – a hydra. laws favor the monopoly. introduce competition, free the market- legalize jueteng

    I don’t want to waste my tax to legislate Catholic morality – SCREW THE CALIBAN!

  44. palebluedot_ · ·

    logic lang ha…
    if legal logging is to illegal logging. PCSO lotto is to jueteng?!? Jueteng is another form of numbers game, just like lotto. The same game involving numbers, but different processes. You can argue to legalize it by making it the PCSO Jueteng. But you cannot argue illegal logging to be legalized.

    Whether we legalize jueteng or ban it, the argument is not about Filipino boredom, it’s more on if the game is better off being (1) legalized considering the poor quality of law enforcement we have, or (2) banned but making sure the law enforcers are rigorous enough to impose the law. Between the two, what do you think is more reliable & credible and will prove to have immediate benefits in our society? If we use Miriam’s equation, what will you choose?

    And why this analogy?
    “Cocaine == rich man’s drug Casino == rich man’s way to gamble
    Shabu == poor man’s coke Jueteng == poor man’s casino”
    Cocaine and shabu is free for all, no matter what your economic status in life is. Casino (you don’t need show money to enter it’s premise anymore) and jueteng is also free for all; whether you are rich or poor, you can play either of them.

  45. …. daaang…. aegis naman naman naman… didn’t she the one who said that she would jump out of an airplane…. i’m still waiting… :mrgreen: if lukaret mirriam is that good, she could have led the rest of her fellow traposakals into proper governing… she’s been in nakaw biznez as long as i could remember… :mrgreen:

  46. flipmonkeys are easy to manipulate…. throw a banana, they’ll start dancing, playing cymbals and all… 😳

  47. … daaaang…. good questions, homz…. “HOW CAN YOU TAX AN ILLEGAL ACTIVITY?”… let’s start from the very top… traposakals, uniformed thugs aka pnp/afp, gob’mint employees run illegal activities >>> 1. durog oooopsie drug lords: from shabu to pekeng medicol/cortal…. 2, slave traders: from overseas manpower placement agencies, entertainment agencies, to mail order/fedex sexy brides…. 3. ARMM: kfr, masa care oooopsie massacres… 4. smuggling: from lux cars, jewelry, arm shipments to leaded onions/bawang…. 5. echastera, etc… last but not least: PADRE DAMASO’s ranch/stud farms… :mrgreen:

  48. Hyden Toro · ·

    We have a case whereby the Enforcers (Police and Government officials), are members, or taking bribes from the “Jueteng” Gambling Syndicates. How can we enforce the law here? The Enforcers are the “Bantay Salakay”… 🙄

  49. Well, I don’t really care about what the Catholic church thinks, since they should not be part of the political process in the first place. But what I do care about is what you guys think, since we claim that we are anti pinoy, but we seem to support a culture that is very pinoy in it’s core: gambling as a form of entertainment. Jueteng has been existing forever so we can’t abolish it, right? It’s not harmful, it’s just a form of past time. Pinoy na pinoy.

    We should be part of the change that we seek for this country. Even if that means going against the tide and implementing a more difficult process. Nothing is easy, especially for our beloved pinas.

    And besides, even if we call for the legalization of jueteng, there is still going to be enforcement involved, in fact, enforcement is a must. And I think everybody here is united on the view that enforcement is very much lacking in our country? So how can we expect the police and BIR to do their job even if you legalize jueteng? How come a lot of existing legit businesses still manage to evade paying their taxes? After being given tax perks and whatnot people will still find ways to cheat, if they want to cheat. So apparently, legalization of jueteng is not so logical after all. Not in the Philippines.

    @paleblue: To answer your question, number 2 is more reliable, given that the consideration for number 1 is addressed(enforcement). As for immediate benefits, well aren’t we all going for the long haul here? Isn’t it a pinoy trait to always say “pwede na yan” and go for the pallative solution? 🙂 Let’s be anti pinoy here for just a sec, “hindi pwede ang pwede na!”

    As for legal logging and illegal logging, there’s no difference between the two, they are both harmful to the environment, releasing huge amounts of CO and other harmful gases that contribute to climate change. Except that one is legal of course. Same with lotto, casino or other legalized gambling, and jueteng and it’s kind in the illegal gambling world. All these are detrimental to our society, and I’m not saying this on a moral standpoint, I’m saying this on an economic and social standpoint.

    Imagine if all the bets in jueteng are being saved on banks or invested, how good would our economic fundamentals be. Imagine if jueteng money is spent on food for the family, or even baon for the kids, then family life would be a little bit better don’t you think? Imagine if one’s time is invested on more productive use, like the arts, then idleness that contributes to jueteng will soon be history, and we’ll be better off as a society.

    No wonder pinas does not have a polished culture for the arts. Common pinoys can’t stand the long hours required to forge a katana, write kanji over and over, or the tedious process of taking care of a bonsai. Although I admit, there are pinoy bonsai masters, but they are exceptions rather than being the norm. We waste time.

    As for coke and how it gave birth to crack or shabu, please read this article: See the pattern? Poor guy wants what rich guy smokes. Poor guy does not have enough money. Brilliant chemist comes along, gives poor guy a cheaper alternative. Poor guy buys, and smokes, and gets a high. All is well with the world. Nice.

    Again, my argument is not whether you are rich or poor, but on how engaging in drugs or gambling is detrimental to one’s well being. You may spend millions on casino or you may spend hundreds on jueteng or vice versa, but in the end the result is equal: you lose your shirt, and worse you lose your family or your life.

  50. one word – moderation. else, try banning the act of drinking water – you might drown 😆

  51. Haay buhay, it seems like we could no longer distinguish between what’s a need and what’s not. Although I agree with regards to moderation, there are things that moderation could not be applied to, or I may say, should not be used as a justification to. Reminds me of the line, “moderate the greed”. Classic!

  52. ralliart1to3 · ·

    I really don’t think that a poor man would bet in a gamble just for entertainment. To a rich man, it can be considered like that given that he has a lot of money to spare if he loses or can easily recover. It’s not that the poor doesn’t have the right to gamble but given the circumstance, it’s the prize not the entertainment. Who in their right mind would ever bet 20 – 50% of their daily income just for fun, considering they have bills to pay and kids to feed? It is clear that Jueteng is a manifestation of the average Filipino’s reliance on luck to gain fortune quickly rather than by hard work and skill. If the people are well-educated, productive, and enlightened, Jueteng will simply be a thing of the past. Money spent on Jueteng in the hope of winning more money could have been saved or rolled in a cooperative or a small business.

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