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Hard Work … Not Filipino-ness

November 14, 2010

Updated: November 14, 2010, 11:27 EST

Manny Pacquiao has shown what discipline, training, nurturing, mentoring and fast critical thinking can achieve. As a professional boxer he has to be good at his craft – not only does his money depend on it, but his life too. All of this were driven by choices made by Manny. If anything at all, the only choice Manny didn’t make is to be born a Filipino – an accident of birth.

The following sections are a compilation of tweets from twitter.com/antipinoy which I have grouped into different themes.

Pacquiao - Born Filipino by accident of birth. Became world champion by choice.

Proud to be Filipino?

Pacquiao’s success was built on the sports program of a Non-Filipino – you all better thank Freddie Roach – the individual.

That Pacquiao, Pempengco, Banatao.. and OFWs succeed overseas just tells you one thing about the culture of mediocrity in the #Philippines.

An individual can succeed – given the right environment… Pacquaio .. like OFWs have to leave the Philippines to find the right environment 35 minutes ago via TweetDeck

Parental support?.. kung Pinas pa rin ang coaching at facilitiies mo… makiboksing ka na lang sa nanay at tatay mo.. Get real now.

Coaching.. training.. focus.. hard work.. and a winning attitude.. does not have anything to do about being Filipino. Get Real #Philippines

Just because you are a Filipino, does that now make you a great boxer? Is that so? Really? maghunos-dili ka…. guni guni mo lang yan.

Manny owes Freddie Roach big time… not his “Filipino-ness”… susmaryosep.

Hard Work … Not Filipino-ness

Proud to be filipino because Manny is Filipino? am sorry but I can’t for the life of me make that same comment. if Manny were a product of a concerted national sports programs that produced a string of winners for years on end (like China’s figure ice skating team, or the Cuban volleyball team) – that’s something to be proud of.

But for all the talk about Manny being Filipino – Manny started to shine after he was trained by Freddie Roach. Most of his training was in California – not the Philippines.

Without Freddie Roach’ intervention and guidance – Manny would have wind up like Rex Navarette – it had nothing to do with Manny being Filipino at all.

Manny rose above being a Filipino – a mere accident of birth is not something to be proud about.

The Philippine Sports Program

Tontowist Pinoys will rejoice about Manny… seriously.. look at the Philippine sports program and WEEP!!!

Philippine sports program and Manny Pacquiao… one is real.. the other is fantasy…ūüôā

Manny Pacquiao wins – eight championships… Philippine Sports Program .. What?. There’s a program?

Manny Pacquiao’s win is diametrically opposite to the loser of a Philippines sports program.

If Pacquiao relied on local coaching and local facilities… hanggang Pilipinas lang siya champion.. afterwards kulelat na .. parang bang mga PBA players.

Boxing Program? Congress will allot budget – 90% goes to Tongressman/Senatong – 7% goes to actual program – 3% to Roach.. not Freddie Roach, but the ipis – cockroach.

Hire Roach to run Philippines BOxing Program? the Philippines don’t pay jackshit. Office of Press Secretary staff payroll delayed by Coloma for 2 weeks.

Where would Pacquiao be without Roach… if Manny trained locally.. he’ll be a has-been in no-time.

Pacquiao and his Groupies

Pacquiao’s was surrounded by roaches and rats.. Tongressmen and Jueteng Lords.. not referring to Freddie Roach – he’s a’ite.

Pacquiao has integrity… Aquino.. is pure fantasy. If Manny doesn’t watch it – he can wind up in la la la land as well.

Pacquio’s millions of dollars worn the hard way…. Aquino and Hacienda Luisita and Lopezes earnd millions the nakawan way.

Philippine Army eyeing new role for #Pacquiao as peace negotiator. – hay naku – papakidnap lang yan ng mga AFP generals.. zarzuela na naman.

Pacquiao tags Margarito with combinations – while Pacquiao surrounded by tongressmen with jueteng combinations.

Margarito has got balls… Aquino aint’ got one.

Pacquio’s millions of dollars worn the hard way…. Aquino and Hacienda Luisita and Lopezes earnd millions the nakawan way

Hoy mga congressman… Pacquiao earned his money fair and square…. samantalang yung mga kasama nya so kongreso… MAGNANAKAW.

*********

Get over it Philippines. Manny is a great boxer – now among the greatest. The Philippines still sucks.. and Pinoys still SUCK.

Manny Pacquiao is a Filipino but Filipinos ain’t a Manny Pacquiao – Intiendes?

I am so proud of Margarito and Pacquiao.. they are human beingsūüėÄ

Are you a boxer AND Filipno… one becomes a boxer by choice… do Filipinos have the same dicipline as Manny? hell no they don’t. puro pasaway. LOL.

sure traffic stopped – for 3 hours, afterwards, what… traffic na naman… wake up. LOL

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He is Filipino – Are you proud to be Filipino?

Manny’s win is an individual achievement – it has got nothing to do with Filipinos. Manny succeeded INSPITE OF the Filipinos around him.

You talk about one Manny Pacquiao in a sea of 90 million Filipinos – what da pacq are the rest of Filipinos doing that Intel had to leave for Vietnam? That Fedex had to go to China. That Ampatuans and Cojuangcos, Lopez, Ayala, LucioTan rule with impunity.

That the Philippines GINI has widened, that its competitiveness has worsened, that it has an idiot for a president.
And after all that – this is all the Pinoy can be proud of Paquiao? I wouldn’t rejoice – I find it PATHETIC.

It’s all about TEAMWORK between Pacquiao, Roach, Ariza, and Fernandez. Pacquiao he can be more than just an accident of birth, more than a Filipino – he did better – became a citizen of the world – personally responsible, disciplined and focused, always learning, and gets things done.

Pinoys we haven’t earned the right to be proud, YET.

If Pinoys want to do a Manny, I suggest start off by thinking with all your might.

Next elections – think about who the pacq you vote for next time around. Treat winnability just like Cotto, de Hoya, Clottey, Barrera, Marquez, Hatton, and Margarito – support a champion – he might be small but he gets the job done unlike a limp dick Aquino.

Going forward, I do not discount the possibility of Manny Pacquaio becoming President of the Philippines – he can waltz through it with his fame. If he takes this path, it will be a slippery slope.

It is still early to say what Manny will achieve as a legislator and after hanging his gloves. Given his track record of dogged determination, Manny is off to a good start. Can he sustain this or will he end up in the belly of the tiger known as Philippine politics.

Good luck Manny, remember who you are fighting for – you are fighting so that people don’t have to rely on jueteng lords for sustenance.

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72 Comments
  1. Maybe Pacquiao should be the proponent of Charter Change in Congress. ¬†He can woo congressmen to his side like how its done in Taiwan — PERFECT!

    Anyway, great win for the Pacman, the master of nonsurgical facial rearrangement.  

  2. Jett Rink permalink

    Correction is in order: His name is not Rex Navarette (who is a Fil-Am stand-up comedian), but Rolando Navarette, junior-lightweight champion 1981-82.

  3. blueredicedtea permalink

    *sigh* same sentiments….
    vacuous nationalism is on the run……
    worst thing? commercial breaks are “lupang hinirang” and the reciting of the “panatang makabayan”
    as if “filipino nationalism” is still alive and well
    and if the pac-man match is over, back to square one.

  4. Maki_Alam permalink

    Would it be terribly unpatriotic of me to say I think Margarito’s beard is teh sex? ;D

  5. Coach Roach knows how to bring up a good whacker. The good thing is… that whacker listens to him. Is all, folks.

  6. Patrick_HBS permalink

    Don’t you just love how “intellectuals” like this author, ¬†who must be a super millionaire by now because of his unbelievable smarts, intellect and business acumen, ¬†can find something negative about how happy a person like Manny has made his countrymen.

    Glass half empty people, ¬†who have nothing nice to say, should just be gracious enough to lead by example and not bad mouth everything.¬†Oh yeah ¬†I forgot, ¬†he is an IT preneur who is providing jobs for millions and millions of people in th Mindanao. ¬†He has accomplished a whole lot with his involvement in the Invest in Davao Promotion Center. ¬†Davao could not have been as progressive without this author’s limitless vision and innovative programs.

    Typical little talangka with an axe to grind because of his big fish mentality in his little pond.  Typical wimp-turned-cyberbully standing on his small soapbox chirping like a drunk rooster.

    The hangers-on of Pacquiao, esp the politicians, are definitely a sorry lot.  The Philippine sports program, if ever you can call it one, is as successful as the people on this site.  But dude, you are too pathetic for words.

    I suggest you try and leave the country and make your “millions” there. ¬†Oh yeah, ¬†none of the people on this site have made it big outside also. ¬†Even the few on this site who may have studied in Ivy league schools haven’t made it big but are also showing off a lot. ¬†I guess no matter how much you polish a turd, ¬†it’s still a turd, albeit a shiny one. ¬†Bad parenting and bad manners can’t be cleaned in a few years in the company of intellectuals. ¬†

    Toot Toot ¬†Toot! ¬†I guess you guys love to toot your horns and love to cry that you are above the Pinoys. ¬†But seriously, ¬†you all exemplify the worst of what the Pinoy represents. ¬†Virtually a who’s who of Nobodies who’ve accomplished zilch, who want to bring down as many people as possible just to look big.

    Please reflect and look in the mirror. ¬† If you aren’t helping ¬†(radio programs don’t count, ¬†neither does putting up websites that claim to have the economic strategy to make you rich) then you are part of the problem.¬†

    (Plug in George Carlin’s 7 Words),
    Patrick

    P.S. ¬†your site is as slow as molasses. I guess your superior members with IT backgrounds haven’t noticed this.

  7. mario taporco permalink

    BongV,

    Same sentiments here:

    Pinoys we haven’t earned the right to be proud, YET.

    If Pinoys want to do a Manny, I suggest start off by thinking with all your might. per bongV

    As an individual, I am a proud Pinoy, but as a Nation full of Pilipinos, I am not. We as pinoy need to start using our critical thinking, as what Manny did to surpass all of his adversaries.

    BongV, god saves the queen if he becomes one of them; TRAPO’s. ;-)¬†

  8. Patrick_HBS permalink

    Don’t you just love how “intellectuals” like this author, ¬†who must be a super millionaire by now because of his unbelievable smarts, intellect and business acumen, ¬†can find something negative about how happy a person like Manny has made his countrymen.
    Glass half empty people, ¬†who have nothing nice to say, should just be gracious enough to lead by example and not bad mouth everything. Oh yeah ¬†I forgot, ¬†he is an IT preneur who is providing jobs for millions and millions of people in th south. ¬†He has accomplished a whole lot with his involvement in the Invest in Davao Promotion Center. ¬†Davao could not have been as progressive without this author’s limitless vision and innovative programs.
    Typical little talangka with an axe to grind because of his big fish mentality in his little pond.  Typical wimp-turned-cyberbully standing on his small soapbox chirping like a drunk rooster.
    The hangers-on of Pacquiao, esp the politicians, are definitely a sorry lot.  The Philippine sports program, if ever you can call it one, is as successful as the people on this site.  But dude, you are too pathetic for words.
    I suggest you try and leave the country and make your “millions” there. ¬†Oh yeah, ¬†none of the people on this site have made it big outside also. ¬†Even the few on this site who may have studied in Ivy league schools haven’t made it big but are also showing off a lot. ¬†I guess no matter how much you polish a turd, ¬†it’s still a turd. ¬†Bad parenting and bad manners can’t be cleaned in a few years in the company of intellectuals. ¬†
    Toot Toot ¬†Toot! ¬†I guess you guys love to toot your horns and try to cry that you are above the Pinoys. ¬†But seriously, ¬†you all exemplify the worst of what the Pinoy represents. ¬†Virtually a who’s who of Nobodies who’ve accomplished zilch, who want to bring down as many people as possible just to look big.
    Please reflect and look in the mirror. ¬† If you aren’t helping ¬†(radio programs don’t count, ¬†neither does putting up websites that claim to have the economic strategy to make you rich) then you are part of the problem.¬†
    (Plug in George Carlin’s 7 Words),Patrick_HBS

    P.S  Your site is as slow as molasses.  

  9. Hyden Toro permalink

    A nation in delusion will find ways to delude itself deeper…we have nothing left ot be proud of…so we cling to Pacquiao, Pempengco, etc…Consolation for the OFW slaves of the world…

  10. So true.

    Take for instance the Ala Boxing stable in Cebu. From time to time, their boxers compete for a world crown but as shown by many of their aspirants, they lack variety and most importantly, stamina – the thing that they should emulate from Pacquiao. Among their fighters, only one notable exception which is Nietes.

  11. Mmm. He actually reminds me of that 300 guy, Gerard Butler.

  12. ako ang simula ng pagkabobo permalink

    Don’t judge us. We are not all like manny pacquiao.

    ūüėÜ

  13. Pacquiao has already proven that he is a great boxer. Or the greatest boxer of the decade. I think he should consider retiring for his family’s future. And I don’t care what other Filipinos say, if I hear someone say that he should fight more, I’ll disagree. He has done enough already. He doesn’t need to prove anything anymore. He has achieved more than what the other boxers have done.

  14. yeah Patrick is a great Filipino because Pacquiao is a Filipino – you can tell by his posts.. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

    you can move to North Korea – that’s the Philippines idol in economic policy like… Patrick… HA HA HA HA HA

    who’s tooting horns??? Filipinos tooting horns like Patrick.. because… they share something common with Pacquiao – the accident of being born Filipino.. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

  15. ako ang simula ng pagkabobo permalink

    kaya nga. Idol ko rin si pacquiao kasi pati yung mga nakatira malapit sa Bulusan na nagbabadyang sumabog eh napasaya niya. Idol rin yata siya ng bulkan kaya di sumabog.

  16. Juan Salandanan permalink

    ano nanamang katangahan ang nababasa ko sa blog na ire?
    walang kinalaman ang sporting fanhood sa development ng isang bansa. kung gusto naming ipagmalika ang bansa dahil kay Pacquaio e wala ka nang pakialam dun. ang kahirapan nng bansa natin at ang kagalingan natin sa Boxing ay dalawang magkaibang issue. isa ako higit kumulang 15,000 na katao na nanood sa Araneta kahapon. trese mil pare! at milyon milyon pa sa mga libreng panooran sa buong kapuluan, at para sabihin ko sa’yo. sa sports na ngayon nasusukat nagn nasyonalismo, UNITY THROUGH SPORTS ika nga. kahit itanong mo pa sa mga espanyol, ingles, o aleman simula nung umuusbong ang mga international sports competetion nung nakalipas na siglo. look into the bright side, lugmok ang bayan natin, pero at some point, kahit isang araw ng boxing day, maganda ang mood nating lahat, except sayo,

  17. whatever permalink

    Insecure kasi ang mga pilipino kaya puro “Mabuhay ang Pilipinas” palagi makikita mo sa internet. hahaha

    Ang mga mauunlad na bansa, malalaki ang ekonomiya at malinis ang paligid pero balewala lang. Ang mga pinoy, nanalo lang si Pacquiao akala mo na kung sino. Pathetic!

  18. This is a great article BongV! I just don’t know why most Pinoys could not comprehend the simple concepts we try to impart here. Simpleng simple lang naman eh. We just hold ourselves to higher standards and we do not take “pride” lightly. We really got to have something to be proud of AS A PEOPLE because we accomplished something TOGETHER AS A PEOPLE. Hindi naman tayo nagyayabang o mayayabang. In fact it is humility to acccept the fact that we cannot be proud of something we have no reason to be proud about.

  19. So how many Americans are saying “I am proud to be an American, Freddie Roach is the best trainer”…

  20. Pagkatapos n boksing, balik nanaman sa dating gawi ang Pinoy. Ang nanalo ay si Pac Man lang, hindi ang bawat Pilipino. Sana ay hindi i-“cheapen” ng Pinoy ang pagkapanalo ni Pac Man by over-associating themselves with him and over trumpeting and intertwining Filipino nationhood in his fights.

  21. This is a mere ad hominem attack. BongV wrote a great piece.

  22. Jay permalink

    Probably not out his own intent, but was conned into it. Still, to say Manny isn’t susceptible to gullibility is rather foolish as well.

  23. Jack permalink

    For the first time i have to dis-agree a little bit with anti-pinoy…may be you guys are too close to it..I’m from India and lived in the PH…I have said it before..Filipinos if given¬†opportunity¬†will shine in the world like others.

    Folks are not taking into account the hardships that Manny went through when he was a Kid…No greats like Sugar Ray, Ali, henry, Joe etc had to live in a squatter or sell¬†cigarettes¬†¬†or go hungry on days or travel through Jeepney or no formal education to reach the heights that Manny has achieved.¬†

    What Manny has achieved is legendary and what a Super Hero does…Common, Ph or Asia does not have a tradition of producing great boxers…he did not had anyone to look upto…Mayweather was spoon fed by his father on techniques of boxing when he was a Kid, Tyson was spotted etc..Manny has nobody on his side..his talent alone has made him what he is today..Freddie Roach came in much later in his life…he was not with him when he was a Kid where his majority of trouble were What was his drive to continue doing his boxing when he was 16….poverty, hunger…..the other greats did not had the basic issues that Manny had..

    I have lived and born in a third world country and pretty much in a middle class upbringing  and i know how hard it is to come up in life with all the politics, recommendations, bribe etc to make it on top.

    Please guys forget about who is the greatest..We are losing the plot…We need to celebrate the¬†triumph¬†of humanity from a low¬†upbringing to achieve the greatness¬†on the world’s¬†corridor. Its expected that America been the greatest and richest country will produce greats with all facilities etc…however, Its is really odd and¬†miraculous¬† that someone from poor background¬†could also do it.

    Lets celebrate it like human triumph, Lets celebrate it what odds he has to beat to achieve his success..Lets look at his achievement as a man struggling against all odds to achieve his goals. Thanks

  24. Jay permalink

    If he cares about his position in politics, he WILL RETIRE from the sport and focus strictly on his current position instead. He should take a cue from another winner, Arnold Schwarzenegger, who took his work ethic and applied it all facets of his careers and endeavors. Hell, he did something that most pinoy politicians would kill themselves before they try this; work a state job without getting paid!

    I too agree at this point, and for the benefit of his long term health that he should get out while in a high spot and as celebrated as possible. He’s got enough money to last him a lifetime and for his children’s future. Having proven he’s the best boxing champ the decade has known, he can then continue to prove being a great father and an able politician to his own means.

  25. Twin-Skies permalink

    Nein.

    Manly beards and sexiness are virtues not bound by nationality or raceūüôā

    Sad to say I thought Margarito looked more badass than Manny in the pics.

  26. Jay permalink

    Folks are not taking into account the hardships that Manny went through when he was a Kid…No greats like Sugar Ray, Ali, henry, Joe etc had to live in a squatter or sell cigarettes or go hungry on days or travel through Jeepney or no formal education to reach the heights that Manny has achieved.

    Maybe not, but they still wouldn’t be who they are now as boxers and athletes if it weren’t for their own hard work and dedication. It doesn’t matter where you come from but where you end up at, and what you continue doing.

    What Manny has achieved is legendary and what a Super Hero does…Common, Ph or Asia does not have a tradition of producing great boxers…

    Oh wow, being spoon-fed by Manny-mania huh? Of all his opponents, the only fight I enjoyed as a boxing fan, not as a Manny fanboy like most of who turned out the last recent fights he had was the Marquez fight. Every fight afterwards felt like the guys he took on were completely underclassed, and why not? They were trying to make a name for themselves, even if it meant being KO’d by an impending great such as the Pac-man. Of course there is always the long tired Mayweather debate but unless anything materializes, its nothing more than tired old words.

    …Mayweather was spoon fed by his father on techniques of boxing when he was a Kid

    You don’t teach talent! Honestly if I was spoon-fed by Mayweather sr. how to bob and weave, I still wouldn’t have the talent his son has to land counter punches effortlessly and continue to know how to play the defensive so well. Mike Tyson’s power for his size is also unique for him, considering most of the heavyweights then were much bigger than him, some having not so glass jaws than others.

    the other greats did not had the basic issues that Manny had..

    Freddie came in as a form of refinement and improvement. Manny had raw potential and in fact the trainer didn’t see much in him until Manny started showing results. Raw potential is still something akin to basics. But it is certainly proven that without Freddie, Manny would never reach the height of his potential, especially against Morales in his prime.

    I have lived and born in a third world country and pretty much in a middle class upbringing and i know how hard it is to come up in life with all the politics, recommendations, bribe etc to make it on top.

    I’ve talked to different people from all walks of life, and you will be surprised at the stories not only from those who come from bad upbringings that also help uplift and inspire others.

    Lets celebrate it like human triumph
    Or the triumph of one man from certain peculiar events.

    Lets celebrate it what odds he has to beat to achieve his success
    And with every Pacquiao story, there are sad stories of boxers who died being trying to find their road similar to how Manny found his. No thanks.

    Lets look at his achievement as a man struggling against all odds to achieve his goals.
    Not the only man in the world who has done that and certainly in different circumstances. I have many many teachers and Manny is nothing more than good works put into action, while his fandom can say nothing more but pointless praises and associating his accomplishments with theirs that they cannot.

    Its okay to disagree. I won’t put that against you.

  27. Kay permalink

    I love our country but I hate the ignorant fools/corrupt/lazy/uncivilized people in it. I’m Proud of Pacman and his accomplishment but I just rolled my eyes and sometimes twitch whenever I hear someone say:

    “we filipinos are world class or the best in (insert word here)” yeah sure… keep dreaming

    “Proud to be Pinoy” eh? what the hell did we accomplish?

    Seriously do not bask on the success of filipino individuals just because they happen to be the same race as you and PROUDLY declare you’re like one of them

    and another thing…

    if a filipino say that “other countries are like this too and are far worse” hey, the reason why articles like this exist is to educate us more to the truth and be not like the ‘bad’ countries that you mention.¬†It’s like telling a person to stop smoking but is too stubborn to stop until it is too late

    More power to these guys in Anti-Pinoy!

  28. Obvious troll is obvious

  29. Jay permalink

    UNITY THROUGH SPORTS ika nga

    Parang may hindi marunong mag intindi ah. Ingles ko kaya para super linaw, so crystal crystal talaga.

    The world cup was UNITY THROUGH SPORTS! The fandom actually understands the sport, the team mentality and for the most part how good their teams stack up on a national level.

    People understand the concept of the sport and through the event, they all become witnesses of something beautiful. Tell me, oh wise Juan, did every Manny Monger understand the sport of boxing exactly?

    No. They understood that Manny was going to throw more punches and render this Margarito fella unconscious for a determined amount of rounds, considering there isn’t much competition left. They don’t understand how under classed his opponents has been, except the fact that Manny won their titles from them (Eight to be exact daw!). About the only thing I can understand is that he is the best boxer of this decade, possibly this generation for his weight class and the claim for best pound of pound is disputable, but puts up some strong arguments. And that people like you are suckers for blind claims made by guys like Arum or said boxing experts when you yourself has never delved into its rich history which Manny himself is only but a small footprint in it, which he so rightfully deserves.

    So you’ve proven once again Pinoys are suckers to using individualistic sports as siestas to view themselves in the top of the totem pole, para lang may saysay ang kasaysayan nila, salamat lang sa ating Pambansag Kuno na si Manny. Ah, este pala, Gubernor Manny.

  30. Jay permalink

    Actualy they are waiting for what happens to Team Pilipinas basketball if they are capable of entering the 2012 Olympics using washed up means of hiring a European coach to train them in euro style b-ball with second rate talent from Div 2 schools from America. Thankfully, I already know the outcome.

  31. aboy permalink

    ano nanamang katangahan ang nababasa ko sa blog na ire?–

    “sa sports na ngayon nasusukat nagn nasyonalismo, UNITY THROUGH SPORTS ika nga.”

    diba katangahan itong comment o idea mo? Sa sports na nasusukat ang nasyonalismo ngayon? kung buhay siguro si Pepe tiyak nabatukan ka…

    ano nanamang katangahan ang nababasa ko sa blog na ire?–

    “look into the bright side, lugmok ang bayan natin, pero at some point, kahit isang araw ng boxing day, maganda ang mood nating lahat, except sayo”

    pre, hangang ganyan lang ba pangarap mo sa bansa natin? isang araw na kasiyahan? tapos, pagkatapos ng araw na yan paano na? manonood ka na naman ng teleserye mo at patuloy na magiging emo? masaya kami para kay Manny, proud kami sa kanya… pero sa pinas? pangarap na lang na maging proud kami sa pinas.. mas lalo pa nadagdagan ng rason dahil sa mga “katangahan na nabasa ko sa comment mo”

  32. Ethan permalink

    When you say it like that, you sound as if you’re trying to take away from what Manny has accomplished.¬†

  33. mix permalink

    Manny Pacquiao came from the slums and that became his inspiration to WORK HARD. Not because the Philippines is a great country that it generates world class boxers. 

  34. Ming permalink

    True, but due to the word “The Philippines generates world class boxers” many of our fellow men are blinded with pride and thinking they could be ‘The Next Manny Pacquiao’ this got themselves exploited by foreign handlers.

    I remembered one time when I read an article about Manny’s manager Micheal Koncz, he was blamed for exploiting filipino boxers that was set to fight in mexico. In Koncz defense he said:

    “they don’t have the DISCIPLINE and WORK ETHICS like Pacquiao”

    Even Manny’s conditioning coach Alex Ariza agrees with him

  35. archie permalink

    Pacquio‚Äôs millions of dollars worn the hard way‚Ķ. Aquino and Hacienda Luisita and Lopezes earnd millions the nakawan way. <— double thumbs up! and to think filipinos idolize pacquiao but doesn't emulate his disciplines in life, pseudo-patriots think they have the rights to brag his winning when they are not the one who went into hardships and putting their life in danger. But I still salute manny for being so pure-hearted when it comes to helping his countrymen. Planning to build hospitals, schools and other facilities for saranggani from his own pocket would be a big dilemma for government officials, which is, sadly, taking their fortune's from tax payer's sweat and blood

  36. mix permalink

    I am proud of the man, not the country.ūüôā

  37. blueredicedtea permalink

    @juan

    “sa sports na ngayon nasusukat nagn nasyonalismo, UNITY THROUGH SPORTS ika nga.”

    how come i never heard that the philippines wins a lot of gold medals in the olympics?
    take note: A LOT.

  38. Not really… successful people like Manny don’t act as if they know everything and know when they should listen to others. You could have a great coach, but the moment you don’t listen to good advice and training, you’re done for. Roach was important… but that does not detract from Manny’s decision to listen to him. Compare this to many Da Pinoys… good advice these days comes in the form of, ¬†“don’t vote the Yellow guy,” or “boycott Wowowee,” but few are listening;)¬†

    Is it the whacker word? Pardon the term, maybe I should use a better one. Winner then. 

  39. Wow, this guy seems to be measuring people by how many millions they make. You could say, “mukhang pera.” ;)¬†

  40. Sports won’t save the Philippines. Charter change, media reform, educational reform, moral reform, et al, will.¬†

  41. ‚ÄúThe Philippines generates world class boxers‚ÄĚ

    Seems to me that the ‘s’ after ‘boxer’ should be removed. Anyway, Pinoys usually slip up on English plural forms.ūüėõ

  42. blueredicedtea permalink

    no cultural reform? <_<

  43. blueredicedtea permalink

    ‚ÄúThe Philippines generates world class boxers‚ÄĚ
    o_O

    how come i never heard of……….
    world famous pinoy astronomers, astrophysicists, logicians, and mathematicians?

  44. Oh, that goes in too. Pardon my forgetfulness!ūüėõ

  45. Maki_Alam permalink

    Yes, exactly! When I saw Margarito’s beard, I thought, “THIS. IS. SPARTA!”

  46. Maki_Alam permalink

    “Nein.

    Manly beards and sexiness are virtues not bound by nationality or race”

    Hehe, just checking. You never know with the Pactards. They’d probably brand me a traitor for liking Margarito’s Spartan beard.

  47. “Margarito‚Äôs Spartan beard.”

    What does that make Pacman, a Persian?
    ūüėÜ

  48. Ethan permalink

    No it’s not ¬†“whacker,” I don’t mind that. I’m looking at this more from the boxing perspective. Roach is a superb coach, there’s no denying that. But it sounded as if you were trying to say that Manny owes ALL of his success to him. What I’m trying to say is that you could have the best coach in the world and follow all his instructions to the letter, but it won’t matter one bit if you don’t have raw talent. Manny has loads of it, and a crazy work ethic as well.¬†

    Anyway, sorry for the off-topic comment. Back to the discussion.ūüôā

  49. Because the average Pinoy has peas for brains. Excuse me, what I meant was that you don’t exactly find a Filipino inclined towards the intellectual calling. It’s part of the sorry culture.

  50. Yellow congressman: “Yeah, show me your moves!”

    Pacman: “Falcon… PAWNCH!”

    Was that what you had in mind?ūüėÜ

  51. Just had more thoughts from what you said: i agree Manny has loads of talent. I think talent though won’t work without discipline… but yeah, Manny has that too. I guess Roach’s discipline + Manny’s discipline jibed, and it made Manny win. The teamwork aspect would certainly be missed, or even dismissed, by the triumphalists. I also doubt Manny would have the same success under another coach; like he may lose some instead of be a title holder across 8 (is that right?) divisions. But you gotta owe it to Manny… that is an achievement. Major.¬†

    Manny has 8 titles to boast, while the average Filipino has 8 children to feed. So all they could do wish he were in the place of Manny. Perhaps the vicarious experience is playing, “konyari ako si Manny (like the kid saying I’m Superman); panalo pa rin ang feeling ko!” Dang, there’s the problem of our cultural escapism.¬†

  52. ulong pare permalink

    … daaaaang….. hay naku, flps, here you go again… y’all just love to latch onto somebody’s success to feel good about your pathetic lives… after the pageantry, now what??? … puro kayo hibang… keep praying >>> give us this day our daily pan de sal with star margarine, blah blah blah… amen! bwi hi hi hi hi… mga tunggak…

  53. ulong pare permalink

    … the boxers, not briefs, i bought in divisoria was not world class… i only wear ‘tate boxers… flips, puro kayo gung gongs!

  54. Hyden Toro permalink

    @blueredicedtea…Filipino technical people like: astronomers, physicists, astrophysicists, mathematicians, etc…have long time ago, left the country; now working as OFWs in U.S., Canada, Europe, Japan, etc…Only the good entertainers are left; and the thieving politicians…I have a Filipino friend who has a PhD in Nuclear Physics. I asked him:”Would you go back to the Philippines?” ; He answered: “Are you out of your mind? ” “For what?” He is working for a Nuclear Reactor facility, in the U.S.

  55. ulong pare permalink

    after the fight, i surfed the world’s news (from cnn to bbc for any mention of the “WORLD’S GREY TEST GUNG GONG FCUKIAO”… niente…. zilch… betlog…. flips, puro kayo gung gongs… high na naman kayo sa rugby (rugby is cheaper than shabu)…. bwi hi hi hi…

  56. Haw permalink

    Ika nga sabi ni BongV, If Pinoys want to do a Manny, I suggest start off by thinking with ALL YOUR MIGHT.  

  57. Hyden Toro permalink

    Our Politicians may show themselves as not getting paid. However, they can be paid in other ways more than their pays. Or find ways to dip their “sticky fingers” on project funds….

  58. Voltron05 permalink

    u know what u retard ur atitude is like Raven from Teen Titans a troll fagot hahhahahhahahhaahahha xd

  59. The Lazzo permalink

    I’m all for critical thinking and constructive criticism, but honestly I think you’re just here to be racist.

  60. LOL.

    Something older like: ¬†“Berserker barrage” followed by a 300-hit combo.

    and then Charter Change sails through Congress and the Senate.

    Cheers!

  61. Jack permalink

    Thanks for the detailed reply.

  62. Jay permalink

    His boxing story isn’t just one fueled by hard work. At least he did his part. Its also acceptable to say that he’s the most marketable boxer in this decade, the last being Dela Hoya. Arum cashed in on this and so did Manny’s trainers, who enjoy high paydays and noteriety due to being attached to Pac-man’s success. At least Manny can wish to do what Dela Hoya can do, which is promote himself and make the most profit for getting himself punched in.

  63. Jay permalink

    point is though, manny can refuse his pay as a public servant, allocate that elsewhere (probably works for his local government that is foolproof, not diluted to corrupt hands of DPW types) and prove what he can do as a rich guy who honestly with his earnings from his sport, promotions, etc. for the people around him at least.

  64. Jay permalink

    In boxing, a good coach can really help bring the most out of a guy.

    I read in a maxim mag featuring Roachie and he said that at one point, he didn’t think much of Manny, most likely due to what he was currently seeing then. But as he also detailed, he took a dull, imperfect blade and made him into a precise, lightning quick rapier. He has had success coaching other champions prior to Manny and the only reason why he gains such noteriety is due to the fact that he’s attached to boxing’s most profitable fighter this decade.

    Many Pactards as already mentioned would see his 8 titles as something to boast about, but a real fan of boxing would look at the quality of the fights. And its also true that there are many experts who still didn’t believe in Pacquiao domination, but of course with each ensuing victory their claims certainly can go out of the window. Nearly all his fights except for a few were very underclassed, or for the sole reason of profit (aka Dela Hoya fight), as Arum is certainly well aware just how profitable his best boxer is.

    Manny brings the talent and the execution. The coach brings in the conditioning, day-to-day progress and research on his boxer’s opponent to work on exactly what is needed and not over exert themselves. Manny’s team, including Arum have certainly set him up for primed success.

  65. Excuse the guy. He makes sure we all don’t take the article TOO seriously, unlike those brainless fooks that scream “VIVA FILIPINAS!” every time they get that chance.

  66. ArticleRequest permalink

    @ Juan Salandanan: ” look into the bright side, lugmok ang bayan natin, pero at some point, kahit isang araw ng boxing day, maganda ang mood nating lahat, except sayo,”
    Hoy pare, look into the bright side ka diyan, sige magparty tayo dahil panalo si Manny sa boksing. Wala kaming problema dun. Ang problema kasi ng mga Pinoy, kinakain nila ang sinaing ng iba. Si Manny ay si Manny. Hindi siya produkto ng Philippine Sports Program. Sariling buhat niya yun.

    Sa MADALING salita lamang, magaling si Manny dahil sa kanyang kasipigan at lakas. Hindi dahil Pilipino siya. Yun ang maling akala ng ibang kababayan natin. Iyun din po ang simula ng pride at arrogance at kayabangan at rasismo laban sa ibang lahi.

    …Until the day comes when the Filipino people come together and support national programs para ipromote ang boksing at meron na tayong bagong henerasyon ng mga atleta….

  67. Kotobuki permalink

    Filipinos admiring Manny Pacquiao is a case of “ako ang nagtanim, ako ang umani, iba ang nagsaing”. He worked hard to achieve his status, and we just act like freeloaders. If he were touted as an example of hard work, I’d buy that – but they’re wrapping the flag around him.

    Sheesh, we do not need to ride on his achievements. It just thickens the bubble of triumphalism Filipinos live in.

  68. Juan Salandanan permalink

    SPORTS ang pinaguusapan, hindi charter change, hindi media reform o ¬†educational reform. kasi magkakaibang isyu yan. ba’t niyo ba pilit pinagsisikan yang mga political na ideyolohiya sa simpleng pagkuha namin kaunting kaligayahan sa pagsuporta sa at pagkapanalo ng isang atleta? utang na loob naman.

    “Sa MADALING salita lamang, magaling si Manny dahil sa kanyang kasipigan at lakas. Hindi dahil Pilipino siya”

    maaring tama ka, pero huwag mo rin sanang ipagsawalangbahala ang katotohanan na malakas talaga ang bansa pagdating sa Boxing, kahit itanong mo pa kay Pancho VIilla at Elorde.

  69. e kung bilangin natin ang sangkatutak na Pinoy na bumagsak sa boksing – mas marami pa ke Manny at Elorde… pwede na ring sabihing… ,aliban kay elorde at pacquaio – ang pinoy na boksingero ay bugbugin.

  70. Kotobuki permalink

    Oops, correction. It should be ‚Äúako ang nagtanim, ako ang umani, ako ang nagsaing, iba ang kumain‚ÄĚ. It’s the form my folks tell me, and it’s more hard hitting. My apologies – I stand corrected, since I didn’t use the quote right.

  71. Maki-Alam permalink

    Malakas rin ang Amerika sa boksing. Pero di mo sila makikitang nauulol kay Muhammad Ali. Pinagmamalaki nila sya, syempre, pero hindi umiikot sa kanya ang mundo nila. Sige, ipagmalaki mo si Manny, wala namang masama dun. Pero kung bawat bukang-bibig na lang ng media at masa ay ‘Pac-Man this and Pac-Man that’, aba’y kelangan na magpatingin sa doktor.

  72. Kanye West permalink

    I so agree with this thesis. I admire Manny Pacquiao because he kills people in the ring with his determination, grit, skill and hard work, and not because he is a Filipino and EVEN NOT because we are great.

    Etong mga Pilipino sobrang yayabang. Ang lakas pang mang-lait ng mga Mexicano. Eh kung gerahin tayo ng Mexico, siguradong gulpi ang Pilipinas. LOL!

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